Myydään/For sale: Scirocco R 4motion

In English a bit later below.

Viiden vuoden jälkeen on tullut aika luopua Sciroccosta. Sciroccoa ei ole koskaan nelivetona tehtaalla tehty, tämä yksilö on Trafin poikkeusluvalla muutettu ja muutoskatsastettu Golf R tekniikkaa hyödyntäen. Kaikki muutokset on toteutettu alkuperäisin VW-osin ja tehtaan korinkorjausohjeita noudattaen. Tarkka kertomus muutoksesta löytyy tästä. Ei kolaroitu. Muutoksen jälkeen ajettu lähes 100tkm ilman mitään ongelmia.

Toista nelivetoista aitoa Scirocco R:ää ei ole tullut vastaan koko maailmassa, joitakin “perusmalleja” on netissä näkynyt – ei yhtään Suomessa kilpa-autoja lukuunottamatta. Tämä on siis Suomen ainoa katulaillinen neliveto-Scirocco.

Auto on siis aito Scirocco R eli jo alun perin tehokkain ja näyttävin malli. Nelivedon lisäksi autoon on asennettu APR Stage 2+ viritys, jonka myötä alun perin 260hv tehot kasvoivat n. 360 hv:aan ja vääntö 500 Nm:iin. Muutoksessa korvataan korkeapainebensapumppu, downpipe ja imuilman otto & suodatin VW Racingin osilla. Myös DSG-laatikko on uudelleenohjelmoitu. Näiden muutosten myötä tämä yksilö mm. kiihtyy 0-100 tasan neljässä sekunnissa.

Scirocco on hyvin pidetty ja hyvässä kunnossa. Kaikki toimii kuten pitää, ei lommoja eikä ruostetta. Toki pieniä käytön jälkiä 130tkm jälkeen on.

Faktat:

  • vm. 2011
  • Ajettu 130tkm
  • Neliveto Golf R:stä
  • 2.0 TFSI APR Stage 2+ (360hv, 500Nm)
  • DSG-automaatti (APR-ohjelmoitu)
  • Täydellinen huoltokirja
  • H&R coilover alustasarja
  • Kahdet renkaat ja vanteet:
    • O.Z. Ultraleggera HLT 8,5×20″ (juuri ostettu uudet renkaat)
    • Scirocco R alkup. Talladega 8×18″ vanteet Hakkapeliitta 9 nastoin talvella
  • Bi-Xenon + LED-päiväajovalot
  • P3 lisämittari (mm. ahtopaine, imuilman lämpö, rpm, 0-100 jne)
  • RNS-510 Navi + Dynaudio
  • Bluetooth HF+Audio
  • Peruustuskamera, parkkitutka takana.
  • Aux-in + multimedia interface
  • Monitoimiratti rattivaihteilla
  • Automaatti-ilmastointi
  • Valoautomatiikka
  • Vakionopeudensäädin
  • Penkinlämmittimet
  • Isofix

Hinta: 34.900€. Rahoitus onnistuu tarvittaessa.

Puh. 040-500 6228 / heikki@pajalle.com


For sale really unique and rare VW. Scirocco was never manufactured as 4WD/4motion, this specific car has been modified by using parts from Golf R. The modification has been fully approved with special permission from Finnish traffic authority Traficom. All modifications have been made with OEM VW parts by following factory instructions for body modifications. Detailed description of the work with lots of pictures can be found here. The car has been driven for almost 100 000 km after the modification without any problems.

As far as we know this is the only genuine Scirocco R in the whole world that has been modified as street legal AWD. In addition to Golf R Haldex drivetrain the car has been equipped with APR Stage 2+ tuning (high pressure fuel pump, downpipe, VW Racing air intake, ECU & DSG remap) which increases the original 260hp to 360hp and 500Nm of torque. This allows Scirocco to accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in 4.0 sec.

The car is in very good condition. No collision damage, no dents or rust. Naturally after 130t km there are some scratches and marks of use.

Details:

  • Haldex AWD from Golf mk6 R
  • 2.0 TFSI APR Stage 2+ (360hp, 500Nm)
  • DSG (APR remap)
  • Full service plan @ authorized VW dealers
  • H&R Coilovers
  • Two sets of wheels & tires
    • O.Z. Ultraleggera HLT 8,5×20″ +brand new tires
    • Original VW Talladega 8×18″ for winter tires
  • BiXenon + LED DRL
  • P3 Gauges additional gauge for boost pressure, intake air temp, 0-100, rpm etc.
  • RNS-510 Navigation + Dynaudio
  • BT HF with audio over bluetooth
  • Reverse camera & parking radar at rear
  • Aux-In + multimedia interface
  • Multifunction steering wheel with paddle shifting
  • Automatic long beam headlights
  • Cruise control
  • Front seat heating + Isofix at rear seats

Price: 34.900EUR. We can assist in transportation.

Contact: Heikki Jaakkola, +358 40 500 6228 / heikki@pajalle.com

Pari viime kesää alla ovat olleet O.Z. Ultraleggerat (20″).
Ennen Ultraleggeroita alla olivat Bentley kiilloitetut Mulliner-vanteet (myös 20″).
Kuva American Car Show:sta pääsiäisenä 2016. Scirocco oli näytillä Suomen Volkkariyhdistyksen osastolla.

MOT inspection

A few words about the inspection and getting the modification fully street legal in Finland.

A conversion like this requires a special permission from the officials. Scirocco was never made AWD so they can’t just approve something like this on a regular annual inspection. We had to get the permit and it meant quite a bit of paperwork.

When we did the application we explained everything in detail and how all the body modifications were done according to VW’s instructions (instructions were attached as appendices). We explained all the parts that we used, showed parts lists and images from ETKA and we also had to get documentation from the manufacturer’s representative (importer in Finland) to certify that the brakes are working as they’re supposed to. For the actual inspection it was enough that we took a full scan of the car with VCDS, signed by a local car service.

It took about a month for the officials to handle the application. They asked some additional questions once but anyway the whole process was much faster than expected and we were pleasantly surprised how well the authorities were co-operation on a modification like this.

Inspection

At the inspection we also had to identify where all the parts were originated (to prevent usage of e.g. stolen components). At the same time also the H&R coilover suspension was checked and included on the list of modifications. The actual inspection was fast, not much different from a regular annual MOT, but the paperwork took longer, more than an hours.

As a final word for this process we have to say that it for sure made it easier to get the approval when we had a complete donor car which was very close to Scirocco from the chassis point of view. It was relatively easy to make the application and show where all the components were coming from. It would have been much more difficult to explain everything if the parts had been source from several different vehicles or even made some parts by ourselves.

Syncro emblem is from Heikkis’ mk2 Jetta Syncro.

ESP – pain in the ass

As I wrote on the previous post, ESP became quite a headache. Actually we drove with the car for almost two years before we were finally forced to get it done because the annual inspection was closing (in Finland you don’t need to do MOT every year for such new cars).

This image says it all – Scirocco’s ABS unit was not happy about the newly installed Haldex controller.

We got fault codes saying we had issues in Powertrain data bus (18055 – Check Coding of ECUs on Powertrain Data Bus). ABS was functioning as it should, just ESP was out of the game. It did not prevent driving, but was obviously a safety issue and MIL light was on. We tried different codings, tried to learn how the coding works. Long Coding helper in VCDS was not very helpful with ABS unit (only a few bits are documented) but we were able to find something by Googling and asking help from Ross-Tech’s forum (Ross-Tech is the maker of VCDS). Eventually we were able to learn what each of the 18 bytes were meaning. Even last five numbers of the VIN were encoded on the coding.

It helped a lot that we had similar Golf R from the same MY so we could compare the coding. Even the ABS unit had exactly the same part no, so we were adamant that there’s a way to code.

So we were trying to generate a code that was similar to Golf R but embedded with VIN digits from Scirocco. Golf was not identical, it had DCC suspension so we still had some bits that we were not sure if they were correct or not. Still, we couldn’t get it done – Coding out of range it was every time.

Many persons from Ross-Tech forums offered help and proposed all kinds of codes, none of those worked. Eventually we realized that the ABS unit communicates with the cluster to learn about the model of the car – when the cluster says the car is a Scirocco, it won’t accept coding as a Golf. And Scirocco can’t be AWD. And vehicle type can’t be changed on the cluster with VCDS.

We found a guy somewhere in Poland who was willing to modify the EEPROM on the cluster but at the same time we decided to try something else. We took the cluster from the donor Golf R and plugged it in Scirocco. The connector is the same.

At least the cluster was working (which was something we expected it to do). Immobilizer kicked in as expected also (Golf cluster and Scirocco ECU won’t work together without tweaking).

Best part was that now ABS unit was happy to clear all the fault codes! Now that the ABS/ESP was handled, we only had two issues remaining: 1. Immobilizer 2. Physical fitment of the Golf cluster. After all the puzzling with the ESP these seemed like minor issues.

We only had one key remaining with Golf so we decided to take it and fit Scirocco’s key blade to the Golf key fob. That way we could keep Scirocco’s original key lock. For cluster-ECU communication there’s two options – take the ECU also from the Golf or disable the Immo from Scirocco’s ECU. Both work well – we decided to keep the Immo and take the ECU from Golf. Now both cluster and ECU were from Golf. Now when someone plugs a tester in the OBD the car seems like a Golf with Golf VIN.

Physical fitment to the cluster was a bit more work. We were comparing the clusters and realized that essentially they are similar, just the outer casing is different. We decided to tear down both and were able to swap the Golf cluster internals inside Scirocco’s cluster casing!

Finally! No fault codes or MIL lights!

There’s only two downsides with the way we did the cluster modification. The 2010 Golf R cluster apparently does not understand automatic long beam headlights. The feature still works, but it just don’t show the symbol that this feature is activated. Sometimes this causes confusion to a person who’s not used to driving with this car.

Another is a bit more unpleasant – you can’t totally deactivate ESP from ESP OFF button. 2010-2011 cars are generation where you can only disable traction control but it still keeps ESP active. This means you can’t have all the 4wd drifting fun on wintertime without taking some ESP fuses off. Apparently they changed this in later models so it might be possible to swap some newer ESP parts in but so far we haven’t done that.

Scirocco running on all four weels!

It had been 2,5 weeks since we started to take parts from the Golf we bought from Sweden. Only doing this in weekends and evenings. Now it was only some coding with VCDS to complete the project. Well – we thought so.

It was easy to get the AWD working. Just a few ticks on check-boxes (CAN gateway & engine for sure, don’t remember if there were something else as well). On the test drive AWD was working perfectly. The only issue remaining was ESP – that became a bit longer story and there’s another post about that. All other units were happy with no fault codes except ESP.

The title picture is from a market square of our home town together with 2011 Golf R that we had at the same time.

Increased weight

Before
After

The pictures above show the changes in weight. Total increase was 76kg (37 front, 39 back). This means that we could still keep all four seats (the law in Finland states that we can’t increase the overall total weight. Now we just can’t carry heavy luggage when all four seats are occupied 🙂

Interior

When the interior was anyway taken out we decided to install rear camera (apparently from some Bentley model). The camera unit was installed on top of the license plate and wiring naturally goes all the way to RNS-510. Not sure if rear camera was an option for Scirocco in 2011?
CAN-wires from the Haldex control unit were connected close to the connector of CAN gateway.
Fuel sensor wires were connected to the instrument cluster. For some reason the fuel level indicator still does not show exactly full tank when it should.
We updated the center console arm rest from Golf as well. It has AUX-IN and media interface (some wiring was needed for that as well) as well as cup holder for the rear seat.
Trunk almost ready. We wanted to keep the original volume for the trunk so we don’t have space for spare tire any more. There’s still enough space for a bottle of sealant and an air compressor. When the carpet is on, you can’t really see the difference to the original. You could also fit the spare tire but then you’d sacrifice some space from the trunk.

Rear axle, drive shaft & exhaust installation

Finally it was time for fitting the rear axle and other parts of the drivetrain/chassis.

4motion rear axle going in. Bolt-on.
In the photo taken with the flash some parts look really rusty – it’s not really the case. The Golf was only 41k km driven.
When we were fitting the drive shaft we realized that also the antiroll bar was slightly different. In 4motion there’s an extra curve for the drive shaft.
Drive shaft installed, exhaust being built, see more pictures of that below. The exhaust is otherwise from Golf except the the rear silencer which is Scirocco’s original. Golf has dual pipes in the middle.

Preparing Scirocco for 4motion rear axle

In addition to trunk floor replacement some smaller modifications were still needed. First is the fuel tank.

Scirocco's fuel tank (left) is quite different from Golf's.
Scirocco’s fuel tank (left) is quite different from Golf’s.

We can’t just swap the Golf tank to Scirocco. The above photo shows clearly the reason: The filler pipe is different. In Golf the filler cap is way more back (about 20cm). In Scirocco that’s where the rear lamp is located, so we could even think of further body modifications – so we had to modify the tank.

We cut the filler pipe from both Golf and Scirocco fuel tanks.
We cut the filler pipe from both Golf and Scirocco fuel tanks.

Scirocco filler pipe was connected to Golf tank with pretty simple method  - small piece of petrol resistant hose and couple of hose clamps. After almost two years we haven't had any kind of leaks.
Scirocco filler pipe was connected to Golf tank with pretty simple method – small piece of petrol resistant hose and couple of hose clamps. After four years we haven’t had any kind of leaks.

It was also necessary to cut another hole to the floor under the rear seat to get access to the fuel tank.  The opening gives access to the second fuel level sender and the wiring to the Haldex controller also goes through this hole.

We used Golf floor piece as a template for cutting the hole. There's already a molded space for the hole.
We used Golf floor piece as a template for cutting the hole. There’s already a molded space for the hole.

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The drive shaft support bearing required brackets - these were cut from the donor Golf.
The drive shaft support bearing required brackets – these were cut from the donor Golf.

In this photo we already have the rear diff installed, but that's not the point here. Two of the fuel tank brackets/nuts are different from FWD, this was also taken from the Golf.
In this photo we already have the rear diff installed, but that’s not the point here. Two of the fuel tank brackets/nuts are different from FWD, this was also taken from the Golf.

Some rust protection was also applied.
Some rust protection was also applied.

Finally we’re ready for installing stuff. To be continued…

Scirocco 4motion trunk floor replacement

As described on earlier posts, pretty much the only major body modification needed for 4motion retrofit is replacing the trunk floor with a floor from Golf. We did this by following VW’s instructions. The only difference is that in VW’s instructions they use brand new floor, we started by first removing the floor piece from our donor car.

Golf trunk floor being drilled and chiseled from a larger piece.
Golf trunk floor being drilled and chiseled from a larger piece.

Ready to be installed to Scirocco. The large opening is for battery - some Golf models have battery on the trunk. This one has a metal plate to cover the hole.
Ready to be installed to Scirocco. The large opening is for battery – some Golf models have battery on the trunk. This one has a metal plate to cover the hole.

View from the underside
View from the underside

Then it’s time to start cutting the Scirocco…

Comparing Golf and Scirocco floors. The difference in spare wheel space depth is remarkable.
Comparing Golf and Scirocco floors. The difference in spare wheel space depth is remarkable.

Golf 4motion has a styrofoam spacer on the trunk to give space for the spare wheel. We’re not going to use that to keep the trunk volume original. We’re going to replace spare wheel with a tire repair kit.

After cutting the excess materials out we're ready to test fit the Golf floor piece.
After cutting the excess materials out we’re ready to test fit the Golf floor piece.

Like a glove...
Like a glove…

After welding some protective coating is applied
After welding some protective coating is applied

Also protected from the under side.
Also protected from the under side.

Finally we applied some fresh paint.
Finally we applied some fresh paint.

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Scirocco in, rear axle out

Before we started to tear down Scirocco, we set it on scales to see the axle weights (needed for regulatory paper work).
Before we started to tear down Scirocco, we set it on scales to see the axle weights (needed for regulatory paper work).

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Front seats out
Front seats out

We also had to tear down the dash partly – some wiring needed to be connected inside the dash (more about that later).

Comparing Scirocco (back) and Golf clusters.
Comparing Scirocco (back) and Golf clusters.

Heat shields under the car. The only difference between Scirocco and Golf are couple of holes needed for drive shaft support bearing.
Heat shields under the car. The only difference between Scirocco and Golf are couple of holes needed for drive shaft support bearing.

Rear axle dropped off - this took only a few minutes.
Rear axle dropped off – this took only a few minutes.

Next we decided to change the gearbox. Unfortunately we were so busy doing the actual job we forgot to take a lot of pictures. Anyway, first we had to drop down the subframe – together with steering gear.

To be able to drop down the front subframe and steering gear we opened the steering shaft.
To be able to drop down the front subframe and steering gear we opened the steering shaft.

It would have been a clever move to remove the steering wheel too – my 4 year old son had too much fun “driving” the car and while the steering wheel was now free to rotate as many cycles as he wanted, he broke the slip ring behind the steering wheel…

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While the engine was supported from the top side, it was now easy to remove the gearbox and replace with the box from Golf.  We compared the Scirocco and Golf gearboxes and they were identical (including gear ratios), the only difference is Golf’s angle drive.

Scirocco's fuel tank (left) is quite different from Golf's.
Scirocco’s fuel tank (left) is quite different from Golf’s.

Scirocco trunk. Spare wheel space is a lot deeper than in Golf. This is the reason why we need to switch the floor to make room for rear diff.
Scirocco trunk. Spare wheel space is a lot deeper than in Golf. This is the reason why we need to switch the floor to make room for rear diff. We’ll post a comparison photo a bit later.

Under the rear seat is the opening for fuel pump and gauge sensor.  In Golf there's a hole on both sides.
Under the rear seat is the opening for fuel pump and gauge sensor. In Golf there’s a hole on both sides.

On the underside everything is same as in Golf except the spare wheel area. Rear axle bolts into the same locations (yellow circles). Springs attach to the areas marked with purple.
On the underside everything is same as in Golf except the spare wheel area. Rear axle bolts into the same locations (yellow circles). Springs attach to the areas marked with purple.

In next post we’ll replace the trunk floor.